this man did not allegedly kidnap her. she was 11. she didn't go voluntarily. she didn't voluntarily have a child with this creature when she was 13. not voluntarily. and she didn't after a period of time, there's a loss of free will. so there's no issue as to whether -- >> larry: he has no parental rights? >> he has parental rights. i would like to see the idiot judge, i would like to go face-to-face with the idiot judge who grants him visitation with those children. >> larry: would you allow his defense to present the case before you, judge judy? >> he's entitled to have a case presented. >> larry: you'd slam it in his face. >> he's entitled, and there is no question that he is mentally unbalanced. you have to put him away forever. >> larry: all right.