this was on the front page saying he's disagreed with the president and she should have been more forceful in convincing the president, don't go for the public option, don't try to close guantanamo bay, all these problems. what do you make of all of this? >> when you work in the white house like i used to, you hate those inside basic stories. no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, unless you're in there, with the two or three or five, ten people, you don't really know. i did notice, one person not quoted was mr. emanuel himself. job, health care, national security, those kinds of issues. >> the fact these stories are coming out in the column a week ago in "the washington post," now this story, there have been a few other stories, what does it say about this white house? >> well, there's a division within the white house, and rahm emanuel is the pragmatist, a