ten years, the amount of people dying. >> especially in the wintertime. gluttony is really the only one of the seven deadly sips that's widely accepted in the church. this is a moral issue how we feed our children, how we feed ourselves. to sit down and have a healthy meal with our families together, god designed us to be healthy people to love him and love our neighbors. we can't do that if we're not healthy. >> larry: i've never heard it put that way. pastor, i understand that stacy edwards and justin who's going to be back with us in the next segment are in your church, right? >> yes, they are. they're very active. i was playing ball with justin. can't tell you about the finale of the show. but we are -- the family life center that jamie helped us out with, justin is involved and learning to play basketball. stacy is involved in a number of exercise programs in our church. and doing some good cooking down there as well. >> larry: why did you pick