of the world. >> ignition and liftoff of aries. >> would i necessarily be on the next program? maybe not. but the fact that, you know, the work i've done on this program, you know, in my history would make me a viable candidate for the next program. knowing now that we don't have a next program standing there to step into tomorrow, for me it's a little bit frustrating because the united states has been the leader in space for many years. go ahead and walk out here. you don't realize that there's only a few people in the world that get to do this, look down like the astronauts. main engines two and three. we have the 401 system so you save for your retirement. we all know the last couple of years, most 401s took a severe beating. >> hi, terry. how are you? >> we get to see a couple of our spacecraft operators. >> yeah. >> are you guys working today? >> i'm 61 years old now. so i still have to continue to