their reputation is on mean street. they're not working for main street. and they sincerely believe they didn't do anything wrong. they believe they have an excellent case. they're going to prevail in a court of law. they don't think they have anything to apologize for. they're doing what they prompt to do, they're making tons of money. that's what their shareholders want. that's what their customers want. so they feel defiant. >> and vicky, they're also circling the wagons. you've done some reporting on this. they're telling everybody inside time to zip it. no time to talk to reporters or anybody else. >> a number of ex-goldman employees who were in danger of writing columns or going on tv and they were called up and told now you will play fair. one person, it's not quite big brother from 1984, but it was little brother. it was we won't be doing business with your new firm unless you treat us nicely. so a little bit threatening. having said that, i felt today the people i spoke to from goldman were a little less