how many barrels a day are spewing out of this? >> well, wolf, we got a two-dimensional picture on video and we got some people trying to figure out what the total might be, but in the meantime if we wait until how much is coming out of it, we're not conducting a response on the order we need to. we always erred on the side it could be a catastrophic spill and we planned in that regard. >> commandant, do you have confidence in the executives at bp, that they're telling you the truth, that they're telling you everything they know? >> i'm in frequent communication with the executives in bp, wolf, in fact, i just talked to tony heyward this afternoon about the current operations, putting the top hat and the riser pipe. they're talking about sequencing and sharing technical information as you know, secretary salazar and secretary chu were down there recently, and there's a lot of interplay.