wouldn't have achieved victory in iraq at all. >> the iraqi government only stood up when we gave them a date certain and forced the government to take action. it's not like comparing apples and oranges. it's like comparing apples and voek waggens. >> i'm familiar with the terrain, they aren't that disparate. >> you just compared your democratic president to lyndon johnson. is afghanistan vietnam? >> i don't like to make those comparisons but i do think that this is a war that this president inherited and i think he, like lyndon johnson is finding it very, very difficult to get out of this war. >> congressman, you mentioned your service. i want to close on this note, admiral mike mullen did something remarkable today. he several times in his statement at a pentagon briefing said we who wear the uniform answer to the civilians and nobody in uniform should ever think twice about that or ever doubt that. obviously, he said he was