even understand the -- >> that's exactly what she was saying. >> that's absurd. >> she was alleging we tried to engage cnn to get you to cover this story. she was blaming me, just for fun, i went back into our library. i've been with "the dallas morning news" 21 years. the first time i wrote about her was in about 1992, and i for the life of me have no idea what she's talking about where she thinks i've had a vendetta against her. it doesn't make sense, a time-honored tradition for politicians to blame the messenger but it obviates her core message that she takes responsibility. i'm not really clear how those two things jive. >> i've never met you in my life. talked to you a couple of times on tv and read your story in the paper and thought this is an amazing story and why we started to do it. no sort of collusion here. melanie, you talked to the