struggle with are the same. >> we have problems with our kids. we have problems with bills. we have problems on the job. >> reporter: but not everybody thinks integrating the black church is such a good idea. michael realle is the former editor of "the baptist voice" and co-founder of realurbannews.com. >> it's ours. it's the one last place in the world that we have that we can call our own. >> we have whites on our board. they look different from blacks, yeah. they speak up a little more than blacks, yeah. but that means that they feel a sense of freedom. they feel a sense of belonging. if other churches aren't doing it, are they really practicing authentic christianity? >> reporter: cnn, california. >> don't miss cnn's "black in america" special "almighty debt." it premieres a week from thursday, october 21, 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. and coming up tonight, larry king asks afghan president hamid