>> of course. >> they like that part. let's talk first about software architects. sounds basic what they do. what makes this a good job for people? >> this job is in demand today obviously because companies increasingly need these services. and unlike a lot of programming jobs which are going overseas, a software architect has a lot of face to face interaction with the clients. they are product managers so the local demand is very high. software architects love the job because it's creative, it's challenging and for engineers who have good people skills and like interacting with other people, they can get out from behind the computer screen. >> that's a good thing if you have two talents. what about consulting. there are some pros and cons of being a consultant. >> cons, gruelling schedule. traveling a lot. but the pros are there's a lot of satisfaction of going into a place and tackling a challenge. a company may say i want to increase revenues by 20% and you hopefully will come up to a