part of the discussion so far. his political aides have also dispatched organizing for america, the president's political arm, to maine to try to organize support at this. so maybe liberals mad about him about taxes should be happy he's stepping up for equality in the military. >> i think it's a roll of the dice right now, i really do. really, in is an issue that is one that the public has weighed in on, and they are sending conflicting messages. they're in favor of it on the one hand, but they are differential to the military leaders, the ones who are the service lead evers on the other, and the service leaders split 3-1 against it. so there's mixed messages. i think people are in favor of moving this direction, but they are questioning doing it at this time when we're at war. >> paul, where do you think -- how long do you think this is going to break down? >> we've talked about this a lot. i've been pessimistic about the ability for this to pass because of the republicans who oppose it but i think now you're looking at passing this legislation which does a lot of good for the military in addition to allowing finally gays and lesbians to