can you go forward if you can't get the 1501 to stay? >> reporter: there are a number of laws we're implementing. a number of the provisions can go forward and i think that's what the judge is alluding to. i think the issue here, though, there's a critical provision of this law that bans insurance companies from excludeing people based on the fact that they've been sick in the past or they're likely to get sick in the future. the ban on pre-existing condition exclusion. and the issue is, can that still go forward? can we still have a ban on pre-existing condition exclusions? i think that's the issue. >> that is the issue. and we look forward to having more of a discussion on this for you to figure out how we resolve that. nancy, thank you very much for joini ining us. again, interesting distinction she makes. she said the tax and/or penalty depending on how you want to look at it, it's not about paying for it, it's about