cast member. i can tell you that the dirty little secret at mtv is that their demo is not 22-year-old college students. their demo is 12, 13-year-old kids, 14-year-old boys and girls who are often at home alone and unsupervised. >> rachel, it comes down to parenting. i feel as if you're putting the onus on mtv here. if they follow the laws and not breaking the laws, it comes down the parents to parent their kids. whether people -- >> absolutely. >> their children are talking about sex if they're not having sex. so there's no point in burying your head in the sand. >> is it that simple, though? i come back to "jersey shore" which any episode you tune into, you're going to see people having sex and vomits and getting drunk in some order or often all at the same time. do we need another show like this? >> i saw a focus group that was done in the uk involving young people talking about "skins."