last night we saw the arguments of the regime laid clear, laid bare. one, that foreign conspiracies are trying to undermine egypt. there is a kind of strain of egyptian nationalism which always feels egypt is a victim from the outside world. so that's prop one of hosni mubarak. prop two, of course, is the fear of chaos, that he is the one, he is the guardian, he is the sentry that stands between egypt and chaos. so we were there, you were there for us. we were watching it as it turned. it became a very different story last night. it was no longer a matter of civil disobedience but a fight for the country. this really is what it is, a fight for egypt. >> and if that is the case, what do the next -- what does the next day hold, do you believe? >> i don't know, anderson, it's very hard. here's one thing that's clear, the crowd is pushing, this good,