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minor bill he throws in the union-busting provision. that's why we are having the problems in wisconsin and we had to leave the state to slow down the process to bring the governor back to the table hopefully and for people's voices to be heard. >> we had elections last november. the idea that union has to sign off or has to agree in order to pay for part of the pension seems to be a little bit ridiculous. many people in the state of wisconsin got laid off and have no problem at all. many others aren't having a 401-k contribution or contributing more to health insurance. >> this just in a short time ago. from air force one the president's statement. he said, he understands public employees need to make sacrifices just like everyone else. he also feels very strongly that we need not make this an assault on the collective bargaining rights of workers in any given state. now to the thick of it in

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