and by whom? >> well, the myth is something that has gathered over time. and really taken up more and more sort of shelf space in our consciousness over time. part of that is organic. ronald reagan is deeply lovable. i can't -- there's no way to watch the amount of footage i've watched of ronald reagan over the past few years and not get a window into a deeply compelling, very smart, fascinating man. part of it is reagan by his own merits has achieved a great footprint in american thought. but the other part of it is more conspiratorial. there are forces in this country, individuals in this country, people like grover norquist makes a living out of building statues. to ensure that inorganically reagan will not go away. i think what he would see is