property taxes than they do in any form of income tax. >> let me ask you, looking at wisconsin, and just ask you as a general principle, how do you feel about minority members of a legislature leaving town so they do not have to vote on something they oppose? >> i think you have to show up. you got elected to show up and vote, make a decision. we all know elections have consequences. so they ought to be up there and voting. if people don't like it, they will elect somebody new next time. >> there was an election. they elected a republican legislature and a republican governor of wisconsin. when he proposed something, the democrats took off so they didn't have to vote. does it seem like it follows the democratic process to you? >> abraham lincoln jumped out a second story window in springfield to avoid a vote in the illinois legislature to prevent a quorum from taking place. there are quorum rules. that's part of the game. do i think the democrats look