i feel like if i don't have children my life is not complete. and then harvard doesn't keep me up at night unless i'm at harvard. when i'm in my bed in new york, i'm not worrying about harvard. >> i find your career extraordinary. i think the fact you've gone from being a model to now you're at harvard and running this little business empire stuff. it's a very unusual route you've taken, route, as i believe you americans say. so it's an unusual way you've gone about your life, isn't it? surprising one. >> it's important for me -- it companies naturally, to zag. and i tell everybody this in my business. >> what is to zag? >> well, zig is like everybody's zigging, right? then you zag and it's like, bam, we're doing something different we have to innovate. if you stop innovating, you just go kind of -- i have an entrepreneurial spirit. what i have to work on is really focusing on the project at hand and not getting bored and moving to the next thing. >> you're quite scary. >> am i scary? >> intimidating in a good way. >> intimidating? >> it's sort of sexy.