proposal doesn't go far enough. it's clear that -- one of the thing it calls for is for the rebels and the opposition to begin negotiations with the government. suzanne, i don't know how best to make an analogy other than to say this would be like asking a rape victim to negotiate with a rapist. i mean, given what he's done to his own population, expecting the rebels to enter into negotiation with gadhafi and his sons is just untenable. and i think what you're hearing from the italian foreign minister, from the -- and from the british is that that is just not a plan that we can expect to work. gadhafi and his sons have to go before the opening of negotiations, would really make sense, or stand a chance to be productive. >> so is this a waste of time? the african union, the leaders, that they're trying to broker this agreement between the two sides? do they have, you know, any standing in this? >> reporter: well, the problem is what standing they have, the african union -- look, it may be a place that one could start to