the discourse before and after is irresponsible. the national polls will wind up being off by only two points which is less than they were in 2012. in the states you see bigger polling errors in the midwest. you also see clinton beat her polls in new york, in california, oregon, washington. >> that's interesting. i've been focusing on how some state polls underestimated trump's support by 7%, 8%. that's way beyond the margin of error. >> clinton beat her polls by 5 points in california. that means you rack up a huge number of popular votes and almost match obama's margin in the popular vote but lose the electoral college decisively. is so it's not a matter of polls underestimating trump, it's not catching up to the demographic changes under way in the country. >> is there a bigger failure among journalistings, among television anchor, among editors when we boil down the numbers into a very simple portrayal? >> there are a couple things. you can have a lot of polls say