he wears a suit, he's incredibly smart and eloquent. >> isn't that what most racism is? it's not the extreme views you see so much. >> i think what makes this dangerous is the said you go is of it. if you're a sort of a mainstream white person that grew up in america, you grew up thinking about america as an idea, as a proposition, not a pigmentation. so what spencer's first goal is, it's not to intimidate black people or jews. it's actually to make white people start thinking of themselves, start being race-conscious. that's the first strategy here. and they say things like, look, why is it that other groups of people can take care of their own and white people don't? that's the first step here.