immerged himself, he'd get asked a question about syria and do a monologue on political correctness. those will be a real test of his familiarity with the department he is going to run. whether he does have an agenda for hud or whether this just just general disposition and basically everyone trump is putting in government. >> the simple fact is that dr. ben carson has not shown any understanding of what hud is. he seems to talk about it as if it only houses poor people. that's what hud does. that's not even close to the truth. so many mortgages go through that agency and all the interfaces with fannie mae and freddie mac in terms of how it works. is being loyal enough and will it matter at the end oof the day? >> certainly it's been enough for donald trump and enough for him to choose carson, but, you know, as alex was saying, you have these flashback back to the