here's what happened when he asked him about all of this. >> i need to ask you an additional question -- >> no, but -- >> i want to address this. i'm also concerned -- come on, i'm being fair to you but i've got to get a word in every once in a while. i'm also troubled by the idea that my president-elect -- he's going to be all of our president -- is already throwing turned bus the intelligence community with whom he's going to have to work on life-and-death matters. wasn't that a troubling thing to do at 9:34 last night in that -- >> no! >> -- in that very -- >> michael, "the new york times," in their story, said that they based their conclusion on the fact that the rnc was hacked, okay? if the rnc was not hacked, then that casts doubt on their conclusions. >> michael smerconish joins us tonight along with cnn's senior political analyst, david gergen. michael, the fact that donald trump is pushing back so hard on this hacking story, how surprising do you think that is?