what is your reaction? >> would be surprised if russia started doing great things but i imagine what donald trump has in mind is cooperation against isis. it's been i think in the forefront of the mind of a lot of people who work on national security matters that russians ought to be concerned about islamic radicalism in their own country and would be wise to cooperate with us in dealing with it. if something like that should come about, i suppose what donald trump said is understandable. i think the chances are pretty small. but perhaps not zero. >> do you think it's understandable that sanctions might be removed nick? >> you know, i mean the fact he said for a time makes me think maybe that's on the agenda. and every new president seems to come into office thinking these are reasonable people, i can make things work.