successful in recorded history. it wasn't all that covert. i mean, the russians actually got an added impulse to their efforts by having plausible deniability, but in essence allowing everyone to see who was pulling the strings. >> let's go back to that briefing where the intelligence chiefs told president-elect trump about the existence of this information. they didn't provide the actual memos, they gave him a two-page synopsis of them. some people, donald trump and also people around him think that was a sneaky way to jamb up president-elect trump, that they were just trying -- they were trying to job him. give we in the media an excuse to report on these uncorroborated allegations. what do you think? >> i think there are two severable decisions here on the part of the intel community. the first is to make sure the president-elect is aware of this. i think that's unavoidable. i think that's an absolute duty. jake, we know, if we know a lot