way to get out of a male prison, as you know. and, so, from the view of human rights, this was a simple case. in the national security arena, it was not so simple, especially in light of the 2016 election, wolf, and the decision that or the signal that this would send, they view, to other leak cases in the future. >> evan perez with the latest on that. evan, stand by. the manning and cartwright cases had significant impact on the united states military. i want to go to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. so, how is this news about chelsea manning's commutation being received where you are over at the pentagon? >> well, i think it's fair to say, wolf, with a very raised eyebrow. the u.s. military firmly believes that chelsea manning, as a low-level junior army soldier, mind you, stole illegally hundreds of thousands of documents, downloading them off a classified system, putting