is a human right. and i believe that this country has got to join every other major country and say, you can stay home and get quality care because you're an american. you can run your small business well and get care because you are an american. that is where we have got to go. >> you know, when bernie says, well, medicaid has problems, you want to talk about people who lost their rights. 742 people in illinois were put on a waiting list for medicaid after illinois expanded its medicaid and they died awaiting care under medicaid. why? because medicaid is rationed care. those wait lists -- bernie likes to talk about medical care for all. let me be clear what his program is. it's medicaid for all. it's rationed care nationally. he keeps pointing to other countries. let's look at, for example, the united kingdom. the united kingdom 2001 report noted that 39% over 80 in the