>> i mean, wolf, is that issue any more important than pefoa in the hudson river with gillibrand where people are facing health risks, is it any more important than the ozone issue we deal with in certain parts of the country? the answer is we have many priorities at the agency. we must focus on those, improve our air quality standards and should celebrate, actually, the progress we've made as a country. one thing i want to emphasize -- the paradigm that we've had -- this paradigm that we've had for years if you're pro-energy, you're anti-environment, if you're pro-energy, you're anti-environment. that paradigm is something we have to reject. we can do better than that as a country. >> i understand that. will you allow epa scientists to continue to study the human connection to climate change? >> our research at the epa should be devoted to rule making and rule making that we are adopting. that's the research and where it's been applied historically and where it's going to continue to be applied. >> is that a new then? >> is that indicated in our research? office of research development is devoted to doing what? supporting rulemaking we pass as