real connection, if there is any between president trump's team and the russians? >> look, i think it's vitally important that policy doesn't get decided in the court of public opinion, and that if there is any actual wrongdoing, whether it's lying or something that goes deeper than that, that that's properly investigated, and then that it be tried. but all of this has to happen. we're talking about life and death here. you know, it sounds like mellow drama, but russia is the only country that can destroy life as we know it in the united states in under an hour with a flick of vladimir putin's finger, right? we have to take this relationship seriously. it doesn't mean we don't investigate because we're scared of them. it means while we're doing an investigation, we also manage that relationship, manage expectations, and do deterrence, which has worked to keep us safe for half a century. >> why would donald trump not want to criticize him and appear to be cozying up to them so much? >> there has been a contradiction within the policy statements coming from the administration, from before inauguration, after inauguration. you've got to have professionals in place, you've got to have