that said something about wiret wiretapping. the white house is saying if the "new york times" is printing that, what's going on? it's kind of a circular firing squad right now. you're right. we have to wait for evidence and our oversight busy will get it right. >> early saturday morning he said, i bet a good lawyer could make a good case out of the fact -- used the word fact president obama was tapping my phones in october just prior to the election. that was the flat statement that the president made in that tweet. no one, including anyone at the white house or executive branch agency or in congress has any evidence to back that up. let me repeat the question. if no evidence shows up, what's your conclusion? >> it kind of speaks for itself. i think they're going to -- he usually doesn't go out that far out on a limb. i think they will find a little