corruption and most of the funding from meals on wheels comes from states and other federal programs. are we actually looking at cutting that because we don't have the conversation. we just have the first one. >> it's a big challenge and we'll get to health care in a minute because they control everything and they have been talking about these things for a long time. paul ryan was the budget committee chairman and then speaker and he bends the arc towards a balanced budget, the dev lose, get some programs out of washington and send them back to the states. this is what they have been saying for a long time and will they do it now they have the authority? hal rogers, a leading republican from kentucky, he says this. while we have a smoenlt to reduce our federal deficit i'm disappointed many of the reductions and eliminations proposed in the president's skinny budget are draconian, careless and counterproductive. we'll review this but congress ultimately has the power of the purse. that's true, cook but for a republican to say draconian, careless and counterproductive. >> on the other hand, the budget