or a situation, would we be made aware of that under normal course of business? >> not necessarily, but it's possible. >> okay. so can you either director comey or admiral rogers tell us what we are doing or what we should be doing to protect against russian interference in future elections or any meddling with our government or for that matter any state sponsor, iranians, north koreans, chinese with any meddling they may be doi doing. >> so, first, i think a public discussion and acknowledgment of the activity is a good positive first step. it shines a flashlight on this, if you will. it illuminates a significant issue. there's a variety of issues,