i think letting him get pes points out people will be shocked and do something about it. >> richard spencer has been in another interview on this network is having a moment right now because of some of the political realities. do we know if what is happening in washington and what we are seeing some some of these rallies from the president is just a reflection what is out there divide that exists right now or if he is exacerbating this divide? >> a lot of trump's base are people who are either likely richard spencer or adjacent to those idea. i think a lot of people who voted for trump didn't realize how that was affect willing lives of people in their community. many people finding out members of the people are being deported and people are afraid to go to the grocery story. they don't know what is going to happen. i think these things are being exacerbated right now and proof what is going on in berkeley. i'm from there and people are showing up there to start