going to work, and that is, even though we're talking about this, that is certainly consuming members of congress and probably those are the calls that they are getting in their offices right now. not, can you believe this issue about the tapes. we are rightly talking about it because this is a big deal, but i don't think that even if there was an attempt to bury that, that it would even be -- >> it's not going to work. and i think you're telegraphing where we're going because we know there are senators who are going to be speaking. >> once a producer, always a producer. >> let's stay on this for a little bit longer. brian stelter, here's a question. david mention that had we need to hear from the president himself. he doesn't do interviews. instead he does these rallies, he drops all sort of policy bombs without being challenged, no accountability whatsoever. >> and today's the greatest example yet. you know, look at that chiron in the bottom of the screen last hour. live coverage banned of the white house briefing. they were allowing audio, but only on a time-delayed basis.