trump. who said he hoped that there are no tapes. which it turned out there were no tapes. that they were going to be his tapes that he didn't have. he should apologize to himself, and the country, for making such a big mess of everything. if in fact he is correct, that there's nothing to see here but some weirdo named carter page, he should not have fired the fbi director. he should not have tweeted all the time, let the system work the way it was working. i do not know, nor does anyone on this panel or anyone watching, if carter page is the first domino, last domino or just a weirdo. what we know is donald trump has behaved in a way to make this whole thing much worse. >> gloria, the president going on a tweet storm about obstruction of russia. is it helping him in the court of public opinion? >> it may help him with his supporters. it doesn't affect the investigation one way or another. you have a special counsel. the special counsel, i would venture to say, is not paying one wit of attention to donald