it seems, though, like the president is trying to goat us, trying to pick a fight and trying to get journalists to become overly emotional and get into an argument with him. why do you think that is? >> i think that is a very good point and it is incumbent on journalists not to stoop to his low level. when he has low standards we have to have high standards. when he wants to talk about why he thinks the press is fake we have to keep being real. as our audience mostly knows we are. he is tapping into extreme resentment of the media among some of his fans. not among all but among the most loyal. the hard core base of trump supporters out there. there has been anti-media narrative for many years. i would argue as you are describing important stories all around the world, challenges this president faces. his delegitimizization of the media is also a big story. today it happens to be cnn, he