so look for that to be quite a frosty chat between the two leaders. at the same time, quite matter of fact. it is a much more difficult relationship between angela merkel and president trump than angela merkel and president obama before, because they had close relationships. an interesting meeting kicking off in a couple minutes. >> wait for that. fred, do you know if there will be cameras? make comments after their meeting or any idea how this will unfold? >> reporter: certainly pictures of the meeting. not clear whether or not there will be any statements afterwards or sequestering. already seen the president give a speech in poland. unclear whether or not the white house might want that to be the message of today. especially things said about nato. we'll wait and see. certainly going to be interesting. of course, there are going to be pictures of that meeting. >> fred pleitgen, thanks so much. we'll bring you that meeting