>> keep in mind this is the third time that jared kushner has had to update his sf-86 form. the third time. this is somebody with a security clearance. he's seeking a permanent security clearance to represent the country. that is an extraordinary thing. >> final thought. >> the overall strategy here that i can gleam from the white house is when you can't argue the facts you have to discredit the messenger. because there's probably a presumption there are other shoes to drop, as john mccain is fond of saying. if there are other shoes to drop, then if you discredit the messengers enough, then when they drop, you don't have to believe them. >> don jr. was the messenger. [ overlapping dialog ] that's why they had to change the story until he released the emails. >> one story >> and not just the media. they're going after mueller's credibility and so on. there's a lot of messengers they're willing to aim fire at. stay there. we have a lot to discuss ahead. just ahead, four contradictory