which at first president trump said it was a great idea and apparently wasn't such a great idea later. we don't know what was said in the meeting. there could have been all kinds of things proposed by the russian side. but the president may not have been briefed up on. this is a big deal actually. >> david the white house is saying it's not merely perfectly normal. it's part of a president duty to interact with world leaders. saying it was a brief conversation at the end of a dinner. if it's an hour long that doesn't seem like a brief conversation. and there's no official government record and they wouldn't even mention it. >> it is the president's duty to circulate and meet foreign leaders and informal pull aside well. it's inappropriate for a president to sit down in the way trump did with putin. if the president had brought his own interpreter so there were two people there, one in american one a russian interpreting. you have a record on the