could not expend the same amount of energy and money on them as you would other soldiers, so they didn't train them the same way. my grandfather fought in world war ii, the first person to receive a medal from his group. but that racist commander of that group refused to approve any of those people who got injured on that trip. it was the same language. i'm just saying, they may resist the comparison, but the comparison is legitimate. >> i totally get that. let me just say this one quick thing. from a conservative standpoint, the religious right, they view this completely different. everyone has a different opinion. they view this as you're born black, that's how you were born and raised. but they view transgender and lgbtq, a lot of these issues, as a choice. i'm not saying i agree with it. i'm saying that's how christian conservatives view that issue. >> last hour, jeffrey lord said the military shouldn't pay for