insurance companies, which they spread over the rest of the population. it's a fair way of doing it. without tripling insurance premiums, which, again, if you make too much money -- these are the people bill clinton was talking about, 60 hours a week, their premiums doubled or tripled and coverage cut in half. that's unfair. and they were the forgotten men and women of obamacare. >> you seem to be making a very strong case for what needs to be fixed. but why do you have to repeal and replace what's already there when a lot of it is working to deal with what you admit in two different charts is a small slice of the people affected who are being disproportionately hit by costs? why not fix that and not scrap the whole thing. >> because it caused premiums on the national average to double and in tennessee triple. we need to address that honestly. now, we say repeal so you can fully replace with something. maybe it is fixed. i've been talking quite some time, repair the damage done by obamacare. >> you guys wouldn't talk about fix. >> i did. i was talking about it all of the time.