ugliness off the hook or to create ambiguity that excuses it. pastor john, from your view, why do you think people are fuzzy about what happened in charlottesville or are kind of soft in terms of talking about racism? >> well, we don't want to see what's in the mirror, i think. racism in this country, whether individual or institutional is nothing new, obviously, but what i think what you have right now is a group of people bent on violence and they're consumed with hatred for people who aren't like them and they're filled with an irrational fear and largely they have been radicalized by the conservative christian church and so they're emboldened because they know they have a president who christian extremism and i think we don't want to see who we really are and we don't want to deal with that. >> john, you had a very clear message to white people in this essay. would you read it for us? >> yes. white people especially need to name racism in this hour because