ladder to scaleup on top tof the are roof. they had an american flag they were using to wave down for help, a box of blankets, sorts of things. the garage still open to their home. as we've floated through this neighborhood, ana, we've seen a number of homes where you see holes through their roof where they had chopped their way out of their attic. this is where we see with a number of homes where people had escaped into the their attics and used their ax or some sort of heavy tool to sort of punch their way or chop their way out of the rooftop, the ceiling of roof so they can get pulled out to safety. the water and flooding damage in this particular neighborhood has been absolutely breathtaking and unreel to see. volunteers have been coming in the similar boat we're in.