conservatives do not necessarily want to swallow. huge amounts of federal funding for harvey. understandably, you see the images. i think you'll see many coming out of houston, you'll see many of them say this is a unique situation, once in a -- fill-in-the-blank year's flood. this disaster relief has been a bug bear for conservatives who have been very resistant to dumping federal money. the debt ceiling is a thing they hate just as much as that. why are we raising it? we have this unlimited credit card. why are we doing that. the problem we have is these are hard issues even for a president with significant political capital who has demonstrated experience working with congress. this president has demonstrated the opposite in terms of how to, would with congress. that's why i'm skeptical he's going to be able to persuade. >> this doesn't depend entirely