it's not a manhood issue. this is a national security issue. don't let your pride get ahead of wise policy here. >> this is a guy who worked in very key positions in national security under president bush and president obama. what do you make of that? >> this administration has been very interesting. i don't think you can fault the administration for trying to change the game when it comes to north korea. three successive strags that have come before this one tried all sorts of carrots and sticks, all sorts of diplomatic efforts, none of which has worked. and it's one of the reasons why we're now in the position that we're in. >> what hayden is saying -- >> right. >> he's worried about pride get nth w ing in the way here. is it a legitimate concern? >> of course it is. with president trump there's always the issue of who is the alpha male. that seems important to him. with the administration, it seems to be anyway sense -- like a two-headed operation here.
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