them viciously and this express by kaepernick was an expression of the back -- of unity with black lives matter. he's attacking that viciously. that says something about this man. >> scott, do you think the president gets it? because he said today this is not about race. is he missing the whole point of why people are protesting on their knee during the national anthem? >> i think the president and a lot of his supporters don't see it that way. they see it as a disrespect to the national anthem, they see it as a disrespect to the flag, they see it as a disrespect to the traditions that we see during this country to stand up at the national anthem. it happens at every little league game, every high school soccer game. i mean, we play the national anthem and we all stand up and i think a lot of the president's supporters, he's ch is channell their feelings, see it as wrong not to honor that american tradition. i think the president finds ways on these cultural issues to