he knew it was him. it's a pretty distinctive voice. >> i can't know i was running for president at the time. i was joking around with a tv guy. there are lots of different things you could say that would garner different levels of consideration by voters. the reason we are seizing on this, one, it's a naked lie, and even with most of the audacity, there's usually space, even on the birther thing there was two different tapes of paperwork from hawaii and the reluctant -- >> no kernel of truth here. >> it calls into question the level -- the mentality of the president of the united states. if he is willing to go there on this tape, what else is he willing to call into question without basis? >> i think as we have seen with this president, i think you are