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the general would understanding. his handling of the porter issue amounts to dereliction of duty. if that's what people under you are saying, can you effectively do their job? >> you can argue these are an opportune time for people against general kelly who wanted to see him out to come out and speak the way they are now. he was able to come in and isolate a lot of people from the president and to keep the president focused on speaking to those that he only needed to speak to as opposed to everyone else. there's sort of an open door policy in the white house. but on the flip side, going back to the number of sources, that's not new that we're seeing from reporters, the number of sources coming out and leaking. what is unique is what we saw even from sarah sanders yesterday, herself seeming to distance herself from general kelly and saying, listen, i'm only telling you what i know and the information i've been given. i'm not even sure whthat i've bn given all the information.

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