do anything at all about gun violence in this country. >> i get that. >> that's a fact. >> we agree -- >> you took it to an extreme saying i want to get rid of the second amendment, people who want sensible gun laws want to get rid of the second amendment, and there's nothing that can be done about it, that is an extreme. >> you threw out these numbers -- >> i did not throw out the numbers, those are facts, real numbers. >> that's fine. >> people like paul ryan are sincere in their convictions and i'm quite certain he believed the same thing about guns even before he ran for congress. >> that doesn't mean he's right. >> that's true. >> he won't even bring up bump stock legislation. he won't bring up sensible things that there's a bipartisan cob sense on. >> that is a nail on -- thank you, joan, go on. >> he blocks everything. he has total control and he is