hallways, class rowe classrooms, a short distance between you and the assailant when you do come in contact with that person. but, again, you've got teachers sacrificing lives for these kids versus a trained police officer who knows about the strategy, who has been trained in active shooter scenarios. i don't know a cop in this country that hasn't had that training. and again, the mental part of it, the visualization we're trained to do this all the time, so that you are prepared we something like this happens. but i mean -- but just to -- i don't know, i'm just having a difficult -- a difficult time here with this and not just him but the other deputies that responded. and then -- it's tough to think about this. it really is. >> don can i just say that on that note, when it gets -- we get to the issue of who should be responding and who should have the weapons we have too an honest conversation. and you know this isn't an anti-gun statement. but if you look at the response